tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4878058446515880237.post8549780810087013062..comments2023-06-11T02:37:24.313-07:00Comments on Goatboy's 40k Extra Thoughts: Daemon List and fun Chaos listThomas aka Goatboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07473515228765680402noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4878058446515880237.post-7747181509604818192008-06-26T16:12:00.000-07:002008-06-26T16:12:00.000-07:00That's the thing Thomas, the Masque isn't an IC, r...That's the thing Thomas, the Masque isn't an IC, re-read her entry, she rolls solo.Aventinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974524094661799700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4878058446515880237.post-39040861686835510832008-06-26T08:48:00.000-07:002008-06-26T08:48:00.000-07:00Thanks for the comments. Vehicles are a bit more ...Thanks for the comments. Vehicles are a bit more survivable in 5th, so I feel they might do better. Will see hahaha. I will post a tweaked chaos fist, with 2 LR, 2 Rhinos and 2 Lash Princes.<BR/><BR/>I think in the new Daemon codex The Masque can join any unit. She is an IC and thus you chose to join her to a unit, and they will deep strike with them in 5th edition. You are thinking of the Fantasy codex where she has to be by herself. I am planning on breaking down the troop squads to 10 man, to try and overload areas etc, with the two plaguebearers as dudes hiding in buildings to use the icons. Also I might drop a Daemon prince, and then try to get 3 squads of Flamers.<BR/><BR/>Will see how the new CSM goes with Rhinos and LR and movement messing around Daemon Princes. Will see. For Chaos Marines, really Oblits and standing and shooting is the way to go. That is if I want to play a heavy list. And if I am playing a heavy list, I either throw down the Ork Nob Bikers or Big Bugs, since they are more consistent lists. I am still building up an Eldar army after Daemons, so that might end up being another default heavy list. Or hell I might need to go to Tau hahaha.<BR/><BR/>New lists up later on today, after I get to work and settle in. Going to play the modified Chaos Fist tonight with some 5th edition. Will see how it goes. Really right now, the amount of Chaos I have allows me to play just about any combination. I have at least 1 cult troop for each god (2 for noise, 2 for Khorne), chosen out the butt, havoks, oblits, rhinos, LR, Daemon Princes, Chaoslords, Sorcerors etc. I have enough to figure something out and see what works.Thomas aka Goatboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07473515228765680402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4878058446515880237.post-67268059909976692582008-06-26T04:59:00.000-07:002008-06-26T04:59:00.000-07:00Well ... I love me some fun lists, and these defin...Well ... I love me some fun lists, and these definitely are that. The demons, I say go for it, got a lot of nasty stuff in there. Couple things from me, remember again that the Masque can't join a unit, so she won't be paling around with the 19 demonettes. Also, I think taking flamers in 105 point, 3-strong suicide squads is the way to go, for rear drops to obliterate a target and then vanish under reprisal fire. If anything, I suggest making your 2x 4 squads into 1x 5 and 1x 3, so a suicide dropper and a squad that you can drop and if needed flame a vehicle (3 handles the elite troops you want to kill, 5 is overkill there but can splash a tank more effectively) or drop farther back for fire support.<BR/><BR/>The CSM are rocking, way to be with true Undivided! And for the record, waaaaay more mobile than my army. My only quibbles are the powerfists on the berzerkers and noise marines, who with furious charge and I5 respectively get something out of taking the mundane fist. Most the noise marines.<BR/><BR/>But all the same, groovy list.<BR/><BR/>- SalvageBoss Salvagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07673738795006263256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4878058446515880237.post-70993586890367311832008-06-24T20:37:00.000-07:002008-06-24T20:37:00.000-07:00The demons need more total units not fewer total u...The demons need more total units not fewer total units with lots of models to soak up all of the enemy firing.<BR/><BR/>The CSM aren't mobile, and dropping to BS3 on the LR is a bad idea. You aren't going to get hurt often enough, and it looks like one big target. I think players will knock your rhinos out first, then worry about your land raider with heavy fire. Either go all-foot, or don't go chaos...Stelekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13908910153647792622noreply@blogger.com