Monday's Thoughts and Tests

I got some good testing with the BA/GK list.  One game showed some weaknesses to a Void Shield - but I had some answers too it.  It also showed me some weaknesses to specific Necron builds - which makes me change up how the list works etc.  Overall not terrible and good thoughts nonetheless.  Will break it down after the paint list.

Me
Bols Article - Written
Frontline Necron Stuff - All written too
Another Libbie with Force Axe - need to prime
Test Corsair for me - need to prime

John S
11 Black Knights - first 2 are waiting to get primed

Nick R
5 more bikers ready to prime
Building some Tau most likely

Don S
Some other minis

Luis
Random Dark Angels and other stuff - the never ending paint job haha.

Carl
More Bikes

Yeah lots of bikes in this lot of stuff to do.  I guess they might be good?  Hahaha.  Ok onto the new testing BA/GK list.

BA CAD
Mephiston
Tactical X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod, Melta-Bomb
Tactical X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod, Melta-Bomb
Tactical X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod, Melta-Bomb
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod

Grey Knight Nemesis
Librarian, Lvl 3, The Book thingie, Falchions
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Strikes X 5

Librarian Council
Tigurius
Librarian, Lvl 2, Meltabomb
Librarian, Lvl 2, Force Axe, Meltabomb

I can hit with all my warp charge dice turn one if I need too.  It seems a bit more janky but that is what I expect with a non death star nonsense list.  Got a new death star but I won't be looking at that. Will see.

First game was versus Orks - took a few turns, finally got close - then was able to get a hole into the set up with the void shield and burn all the Orks up.  The 2 Novas killed almost 2 Loota squads and part of a 30 man blob - then of course the run move incinerators killed everything else.  Without the Void Shield I would have killed the Orks so quickly.

Played 2 quick test games versus Necrons - Ben Mohile is the master at them and I figured out what I need to do.  Versus Wraith Spam I can just do novas, force, and hammer hand etc.  Versus Destroyer Cult I need to push for shrouding off of the Council and try to keep my butt protected.

The new set up has the Librarian roll all his powers on Santic.  He gets 4 powers due to the book so I could just roll all of them at once and see if I get cleansing flame.  I also get to Reroll ones on Santic Powers and can hopefully help my Purifiers get the casting done right.  Good times.  Force and Hammer hand will be a big bonus as well as Meph getting involved a Str 10 with force up.  The meltabombs are there to give me some help versus all the Rhinos and other things that might need a charge and explode action done.  This is the next list to test out.

Ok - enough list chatter - lets get to some models and a single piece of art.

Admech Conversion - fun guy to make.

My Council - the 3 Brothers - the Oldest in the Middle, The Judge on the left and the Executioner on the Right.

First of the Black Knight commission.

Random stuff as usual!

More half and half zoom zooms.

Man this post took too long to write up

I kept getting side tracked with regular work, paint work, and kiddo/family etc. The life of having more to do then you have time to do.  Blah haha - lets do a paint list and then onto some meaty stuff.

Paint list
Me
Bols Article - Written - about new Tau list idea - spicy!
Extra Tactical Squad of BA/GK army change - Done!
Extra Purifier without a Hammer - Done!
3 out of 6 review things for Frontline done!  Maybe another one will be done!

Nick R
5 more half yellow/black bikers that hate me - Primed!

Carl
Need to reprime the 5 bikers I built and the primer messed up! Bastard primer!!

Andrew
Tech Priest Guy - Almost done need to fix an arm

Luis
More Dark Angel guys!

Jon
Start his Black Knights this week during Thanksgiving!

Don
Some random stuff I haven't taken out of a box cuz I suck!

Ah crap I need to pack up some stuff to ship too! Damnit!  I couldn't find the tape last night...

Alright - as you know I have been trying out a new army - the GK/BA thing.  I've played 3 games so far - should get more in this weekend with the update - thus the extra painting.  I've gone 1-2 with them - with 1 lose due to a mistake with the powers I threw and the other cuz Mephiston failed some charges for me.  It sucks but that is life.  It still felt like I was in it so at least that was a good thing army wise.  Quick rundown of what I faced.

Game 1 - Drop Guard Elysiums match up. I won this one after round 3 as I burned up all the guys.  Any light armor based army just does not like Novas.  I actually got off most of my powers in this game so that might be why it ended sooner.  Still - I burned up a lot of things.  Highlights - learning Misfortune plus Cleansing flame means I can take down flyers and other things.  Ignoring cover is hot too.

Game 2 - Eldar list with lots of warp spiders.  I lost this one due to trying to use Cleansing flame vs going for Force and Hammer hand.  I could have taken out the Dark Eldar Scalpel group if I had done things right.  Still the army worked out pretty well.  I also should have casted Force and Sanguine sword on Mephiston - could have won me the game there as well.  But again - army didn't feel like I was losing completely.  I failed like 30% of my powers too - plus some key spells like misfortuned etc.  I almost quadrupled the dice of my opponent on warp dice but never stopped a spell either.

Game 3 - Versus Gladius.  This was versus Frankies rough as hell army too.  I failed over 50% of my powers and still almost pulled it out.  If Meph had only not failed 2 charges it might have been me winning the battle report.  Again when the Novas went off they were brutal.  Popping Rhinos and killing all the scouts.  It just causes a lot of hits.  It did make me rethink the army and come up with the following rebuild too.

New List -

GK Nemesis - BA CAD
GK
Libbie, Lvl 3, Warding Staff - Warlord
Libbie, Lvl 3, Warding Staff
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Strike Squad X 5

Mephiston
Tactical Squad X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod
Tactical Squad X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod
Tactical Squad X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod

I gain 6 Objective secured units for the loss of the assault squad and the extra librarian that didn't do much.  I also lose the hammer on one purifier squad which is kind of sad but I found he always died before he got to swing.  This army feels a lot better and I think it will give a lot of armies fits as it does weird things.  Plus it just auto hits everything all the time too.  Will write up the test games this weekend and see how it pans out.

I keep thinking a list like this might be a good meta choice with ITC.  Lots of fast units, a good null deploy strategy and enough weapons to be a hurting.

White Scars CAD + Champs of Fenris
Khan, Moondraken
Tech Marine, Bike, Conversion Beamer, Hunter's Eye
Bike Squad X 3, Melta X 2, Combi-Melta, Attack Bike, MM
Bike Squad X 3, Melta X 2, Combi-Melta, Attack Bike, MM
Bike Squad X 3, Grav gun X 2, Combi-Grav
Bike Squad X 3, Grav gun X 2, Combi-Grav
Bike Squad X 3, Grav gun X 2, Combi-Grav
Drop Pod

WGBL, Thunder Wolf, Powerfist, SS
Iron Priest, Thunder Wolf
Iron Priest, Thunder Wolf
Iron Priest, Thunder Wolf, Cyber Wolves X 2
Iron Priest, Thunder Wolf, Cyber Wolves X 2
Iron Priest, Thunder Wolf, Cyber Wolves X 2

The idea is that you can outflank everything, come in and be a pain in the butt - hiding out from Tau and other things.  The 2 Cyber Wolf Iron priest join up the Grav Bike squads and give an extra 2 wounds they can sacrifice etc.  The Melta is there - cuz sometimes you need it.  It feels alright - it has a lot of guns and can move around a lot.  The single drop pod is so you can null deploy if you make them go first.

Alright models and calling it a day.

Final Flesh Tearers for me!

Rando kit bash Purifier etc.

More Dark Angels.

More random Luis stuff

Those bikers that will be the death of me.

Dakka dakka!

Pew Pew

Swoosh sound!

Groan sounds as he grims something.

Goatboy's Weekly Thing

Woohoo - I am back.  I actually got some games in with the BA/GK thing and I am finding the game a lot more fun.  It is neat going away from death star nonsense and just trying out something different.  Plus if it goes off it can burn a lot of things to the ground.  Woot...

I'll post the list at the end.  Let's see - paint list

Me
Bols Article - done!
Most of the Art is done!
I might have other art but I am done with my stuff for a bit
Food hammer model done!

Alan
Chaos Tank, Heralds and other stuff

Luis
More Necromunda stuff and some DA stuff

Jon
Lots of Black Knights to do - 4 boxes - one conversion into a chaplain

Don
Some random stuff to do

Carl
Space marine bikers

Nick R
Marine stuff

Andrew
Single model conversion - need to grab the final part

I am sure some other stuff.

Anyway the GK/BA list - most likely doing the GK as the warlord as I expect less GK armies at LVO.

GK - Nemesis Strike Force
Libbie, Lvl 3
Libbie, Lvl 3
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4, Daemon Hammer
Strike Squad X 5

BA Flesh Tearers
Mephiston
Libbie, Lvl 2
Tactical Squad X 5, Meltagun, Combi Melta, Drop Pod
Assault Squad X 5, Meltagun X 2, Combi Melta, Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod

Meph is there to go after Wraith Knights and Imperial knights.  The way the army tries to work is get a few cleansing flames off, run with the Purifiers and burn everything.  Things I have learned from this is that I need to look at what I am trying to do and go hammer hand and force for certain things, save more for force in case of other random stuff, go for Misfortune and knock things down.  Lots of stuff.

Normally I roll the follow

BA Libbie - 2 Rolls on Divination
Meph Rolls 1 Roll Biomancy, Default BA power
GK Libbie - 3 Rolls on Divination
GK Libbie - if I have 2 Misfortunes I roll on Sanctic and go for Gate

I had to get 6 pods in there to let me not drop my Purifiers first turn if I don't have too.  It plays odd - doesn't care about set up, and can do a lot of damage to other things.  It plays fun and doesn't do the normal things.  It is funny it is very anti psyker due to all the psyk out grenades I can throw on units without having to waste 140 pts on an Assassin.  Weird stuff - and it is all painted now.  It is one of the first armies I just painted the army - nothing extra.

Let's see some paint stuff and a bit of art.

SW guy for Food Hammer

My evil Sammie for my Evil DA marines.

Final Drop Pod for me!

2 Sets of Purifiers!

Final pod for Luis!

This finishes off all of the Dark Angels for this commission!

Goatboy's Sometime Post and stuffs

Man I will say this - getting sick sucks.  I got sick for a few days 2 weeks ago - then my wife got sick a few days afterwards.  I thought it was food poisoning but it looks like it was a stomach bug sort of thing.  Pain in the butt for sure.  It really kicked me down a few pegs on working so that is why this post was short with not much worked on.  But hopefully that will change in the coming weeks.  I also had my son's first birthday party - so that killed a weekend with family in town, mom in law in the house for awhile, and just no time.  Meh!

Ok let's do a paint list.  I am planning on knocking out big chunks this weekend to start on new stuff.  It never ends for the Goat.

Me
10 Purifiers - built and almost all painted.  I have 5 more to finish up with some colors etc.
Another 10 Purifiers to finish off the GK/BA thing
1 Drop Pod
Some illustration stuff as usual
Food Hammer Donation - Wolf Lord idea.

Alan
Chaos Stuff - once I knock out this DA commission it is onto some Chaos stuff.

Tim
Finish a Dark Angels started box and some Meltaguns

John
Some random Black Knights and a Chaplain Conversion

Don
Some other model company stuff.

Luis
More Necromunda and other stuff.

Carl
Space marine Bikers

Nick
Space Marine stuff maybe?

I am sure other stuff too as people ask me questions about smaller commissions.  A lot of the time I can knock that out quickly so will see.

I tested out a Dual Knight list this past week against my buddy Nick.  He beat the ever living snot out of me as I failed a lot of saves, he hit with all his deep strikes and just wrecked me with an Elysium build.  It was rough and while the army wasn't bad - it was just not prepared to get beaten up like that.  I have a feeling if I played less aggressive and protected my knights more - I might have done better.  I think that is the key with a Dual Knight list - keep them protected.

What I played - then what I would change too based on what I see in the meta.

Knight Crusader, Battlecannon, Storm Spear Missile Pod
Knight Crusader, Battlecannon, Storm Spear Missile Pod

WGBL, Thunder Wolf, Runic, Powerfist, SS
WGBL, Thunder Wolf, Runic, Powerfist, SS
Wolf Priest, Bike, Runic
Iron Priest, Thunder, Cyber Wolves X 4
Iron Priest, Thunder, Cyber Wolves X 4
Fenris Wolves X 12

I should have used the big blob to keep deep striking honest, hide in the corner and just shot stuff and came out after things came down.  It seems like it could work - but I can see some tweaks.

Since it is only a 2 source list I could look at adding in Inquisition with RAD and Psyotroke grenades.  It would keep some Deathstars honest as they have to worry about coming in and getting effed up.  It is a thought and I might test it more.  This list seems designed to put a hurt on Gladius for sure.  Knights with this much shooting can knock out a ton of guys if needed and being "immune" to grav might be worth it.  I do wonder if I drop down the Iron Priests etc - or set them up to fix knights if needed.

Knight Crusader, Storm Spear Missile Pod
Knight Crusader, Battle Cannon, Storm Spear Missile Pod

WGBL, Thunder Wolf, Runic, Powerfist, SS
WGBL, Thunder Wolf, Runic, Powerfist, SS
Wolf Priest, Bike
Iron Priest, Thunder, Cyber X 3
Iron Priest, Thunder, Cyber X 3
Fenris Wolves X 10

Inquisitor, Servo Skulls X 3, Rad Grenades, Psycotroke Grenades

It looks janky but in a day and age of having a ton of Death Stars this is an annoying one.  You can't really throw into it due to the issues of getting screwed on the grenades.  Plus it still hits plenty hard too.  It is a thought for sure - plus the Servo Skulls can keep Gladius Scooting far away.

Here is the Updated 2 Knights list from what I played at Wargames con.

Knight Crusader, Storm Spear
Knight Crusader, Battle Cannon, Storm Spear

DA
Chaplain, Bike, Auspex, Meltabomb
Ravenwing Command X 4, Apoc upgrade
Scouts X 5, Combi-Melta
Scouts X 5, Combi-Melta

Wolf Guard BL, Runic, PF, SS
Wolf Guard BL, Runic, PF, SS
Wolf Guard BL, Runic, PF, SS
Servitor
Servitor

It kinda feels dumb but it could work.  It has some pain in there and extra scouts are always a help.

Current BA/GK build

GK Libbie, Lvl 3
GK Libbie, Lvl 3
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4
Purifiers X 10, Incinerators X 4, Daemonhammer
Strike Squad X 5

Flesh Tearers
Mephiston
Libbie, Lvl 2, Power Axe
Tactical Squad X 5, Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod
Assault Squad X 5, Meltagun X 2, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod

Gives me 6 Pods - Meph to go after Knights and Wraith Knights and plus a decent amount of melta as needed.  It is probably a really weird list but it will get done soon.  Oh and it isn't evil look so a win for me!

Alright enough crappy lists - onto some models.

Did a set of models for a wedding - this is an extra one, one of the guests wanted because they liked what I did.

Necromunda stuffs!

I have 3 more of these guys, attack bike, and a speeder left to do.

BJORN!!! he is gonna touch ya in a bad place.

Paint like you mean it.

Lots of Models - Trying to get stuff done.

Getting food poisoning sucks - took me out for a good part of the week and slowed me down on finishing art projects.  I got some painting done - but not enough to feel happy about it. So will see.  And man primer eating it sucks - need to clean off some dusting to finish some grey bikers.  Dammit.

Paint list
Me
Art pieces to color - 3 of them right now - some things to draw too
20 GK to do at some point
That is about it I think for me.

Carl
5 More bikers I need to fix the priming issue on.  Damn you more expensive Primer!

Alan
Chaos Stuff

Tim
More DA bikers - built 3 of them so far have a speeder, attack bike, and 3 more bikers left shooting to get this done by end of next week

John
More DA bikers too!!

Luis
More Necromunda stuff - have 10 primed

David
Quick single model painting

Don S
More stuff from another company - new paint style haha.

Yeah so lots of stuff.  It never ends.  The plan is to get a game finally this weekend.  I have not had any chance to get an event in due to the nature of everyone having kids during this time.  It means parties and birthdays and other bits of stuff.  I hope to get a game in on Saturday with this dumb thing cuz it is painted.

Chaos Space Marine CAD/KDK CAD/Black Legion Ally

CSM  CAD
Cypher
Sorcerer, Bike, Force Axe, Lvl 3, Spell Familiar
Sorcerer, Bike, Force Axe, Lvl 3, Spell Familiar
Cultists X 10
Cultists X 10

KDK CAD
Chaos Lord, Juggernaut, Powerfist, Lightning Claw, Sigil of Corruption
Herald of Khorne, Juggernaut, Locus of Wrath, Brazen Rune
Cultists X 8
Cultists X 8
Flesh Hounds X 14
Heldrake, Baleflamer
Heldrake, Baleflamer

Black Legion Ally
Chaos Lord, Juggernaut, Powerfist, Lightning Claw, Sigil of Corruption, Eternal Warrior Skull, Veteran
Cultists X 10

It might work - it will look neat and it is immune to some dumb things.  So yeah!  Will try it out.  Hopefully I can get some info on the GK list - but I am trying to get that done before I head out to the Frontline Gaming crew to talk some art etc.

Sorry for the lackluster post - just tired still and want to get a bunch of models up.

Quick 3 character build.

Flesh hounds ala Vampire Hounds

Spell Jugger guy!  Just wanted to paint this model and made him useful

Woot dragon!  This is like number 17 or so...

One more Pod to finish for this lot.

Necromunda!

Zoom zoom!