Goatboy's Sunday - Woohoo

Man - got a lot of crap done this weekend.  I am getting ready or the LVO event - and of course I want to play a horde of daemon thingies.  I just don't like my life too much eh?  Hahaha.  Oh well - let's get the paint list and then some thoughts.

Me
Plastic Dudesmen - Started it - had to do a filler of sorts this past week but will get this one done.
20 DE/Daemonettes - Done!
20 Daemonettes - Done!
20 More Daemonettes - 10 Done - pics when unit is done.
Soul Grinder X 2 - Not even built?!?!
Article - Written - it is about the new Nid Dataslate.
Art for a Tournament

Travis
Warcaster - Done!
Warjack - Done!
22 Smaller Lady things - Not done!  Need to fix horns...
But this is the last of it - trying to finish before I leave for Vegas.

Luis
UM order - 10 Tacticals and 10 Assault guys - waiting on shoulder pads
Random Librarian - Done!

Will Whit
Lots of CSM stuff - box is in

Jens
10 Horrors - Primed
10 More Horrors - in a box
A bunch of objectives - cleaned need to prime
Lots of other random stuff I just got in
Fire Raptor - Waiting to get finished building

Don
Revenant... damnit...

I think that is it.  Played a game on Saturday.  I played the following list.

Keeper of Secrets, Exalted Gift, Greater, Lvl 3
Keeper of Secrets, Greater Gift X 2, Lvl 3
Daemonettes X 20
Daemonettes X 20
Daemonettes X 20
DP, MoS, Wings, Armor, Lvl 3, Greater Gift X 2
DP, MoS, Wings, Armor, Lvl 3, Greater Gift X 2

Warlord Keeper
Gifts - Portal, +1 Wound/IWND
Warlord Trait - Reroll Warpstorm
Spells - Psychic Scream, Invisibility, Hallucinate

Keeper 2
Gifts - 4+ FNP, Reroll Inv
Spells - Psychic Scream, Invisibility, Hallucinate

DP 1
Gifts - Dildo Cannon (Lash of Submission), 4+ FNP
Spells - Iron Arm, Warp Speed, Life Leach

DP 2
Gifts - Dildo Cannon, +1 Wound/IWND
Spells - Iron Arm, Warp Speed, Smite

I played against a Marine army using the Codex: Iron Hands supplement.  He had an off the chain lord on a bike, Librarian with the power fist staff, Rune Priest plus Grey Hunters in a pod, 2 Drop pods one with Stern Guard plus Libbie with Grav and Melta, one with Tactical guys, 2 squad of full bikes with Gravs/MM Attack bike, plus some devs with missiles.

Mission was Big Guns never Tire plus Emperor's Will.  We said only Heavy can score Big Guns Objectives.

First Turn
Marine player went first, moved up.  He killed one DP right away with the drop pod Stern guards but had some bad luck with the Beam from outer space scattering onto the Stern Guard.  Still he got first blood and I lost a super DP.  Rune Priest landed in the middle.  His Chapter Master broke off and was on a hill ready to pounce on me.  Bikers shot some Daemonettes up and really I only lost that 330 point Daemon Prince.  Sad panda pants.

My turn, I tried to cast some spells and only got one Invisibility thru on a unit of unhurt Daemonettes.  Those Daemonettes would get mixed up with the lord and take him out due to being invisible in 3 turns of combat.  Everything else moved up and I rolled an 11 on the Warprstorm.  His Libbie with the power fist staff ate it and I prepared to assault as much as I could.  Daemonettes got into his Rune Priest and his Chapter master ate 1 wound this phase.  I dropped the portal and spat out 4 dudes.  I killed some Grey Hunters with a vector strike by the surviving DP and then shot dildos all over the Devs and killed 2.

Score 1-0 Opponent due to First Blood

2nd Turn
Marine player moved up and shot some Daemonettes.  I killed more Grey Hunters with my rending sexy claws and the Chapter Master took another 2 wounds.  He did get one back though like a boss.  My Second DP died to shooting from a bike squad and Devs :(.  Still my two Keepers were moving strong.

My turn I only got Invisibility off on the one unit locked with the Chapter Master.  This let me do some more wounds and keep that jerk busy. But I killed him in Assault so it didn't matter too much.  I got an assault with the good Keeper into a bike squad as well and stayed locked in after punting 2 guys.  I locked in another troop choice too and killed the Rune Priest.

Score 1-0 plus I still had 4 troops left and the opponent was sitting at 3 Left but all but one was locked up with big Monsters coming.

3rd Turn
Marine player was looking at the table top.  There was no way for a bike unit to leave and I had enough to catch him.  Plus without the Rune priest I now was going to be invisible all over the place. I was going to get close to tabling this next turn as everyone was locked up and I was going to start casting all kinds of crazy spells each and every turn.

Game win to me.  I can see this list doing ok and I have to ask myself if it is worth it to bring to Vegas.  I want to win but... enh I still want to have fun.  Blargh.

New lists

HQ: Keeper of Secrets, Exalted Gift, Greater Gift, Level 3
HQ: Keeper of Secrets, Greater Gift X 2,
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Heavy: Daemon Prince, Wings, Armor, MoS, Greater Gifts X 2, Lvl 3
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent

1740

This seems fun to me.  I have a 1500 local event before Vegas.  No Comp from what I am told but they asked me not to play Screamer Star.  Looking at this.

Bel'akor
Herald of Khorne, Juggernaut, Lesser Gift
Daemonettes X 20
Daemonettes X 20
Daemonettes X 20
Flesh Hounds of Khorne X 10
Soul Grinder, MoN, Baleful Torrent
Soul Grinder, MoN, Baleful Torrent

Simple and Basic - it might work.  Plus it doesn't seem like a complete dickhead list.  Yay!

Oh yeah... Nid Cards for the new book are coming.  I just haven't had time to bust out Photoshop to get them done.  I have been working on other things.  So if you want those cards email me.

Um - let's see some models to check out.

Last Cannon... woohoo.

My customer Cypher.  I had the post idea for awhile - finally got around to building and painting him

Woot - Cryx is getting done dammit!

He is trying to shake your hand.

Red evil Wyches of Slaanesh

Blue Daemonettes - other unit is red with gold armor and blue hair.  I like to make all my units look different so I can tell what unit is what etc.  50 done so far.

Random Libbie.

That is it for now - really I have to decide if I want to paint Grinders.  I have some - but they are old and look bad.  Meh.

Goatboy's Monday - Day off means Paint day!

And art day!  Hooray!  Painting models and other things on a day off.  Yup yup yup.  So let's see... let's do the paint list real quick - then army lists for LVO.

Me.
Plastic Dudesmen - No idea right now... people want me to make fun of the Financial stuff... but... blargh.
Article - Nid list discussion already written cuz I am in boss mode
Daemonettes - Wyches based - Need to finish a unit off
Daemonettes - Normal Daemonettes - Need to paint these too.
Daemonettes - A 3rd set - got one built will do the others like this.
That should do it for me.

Mike N
Dakkajet - Done!

Luis P
Tactical Marines X 10 - Need to build
Random Model that came in a bag - Done!
Who knows other stuff too most likely

Travis
Warcaster - Primed
Big Jack - Need to fix
Final push of small models - 22 of them - not built
Hope to finish this by end of Jan

Don S
Khorne Cannon - Built and Primed

Jens
12 objective markers
10 Horrors - built
10 Horrors - not built
1 Fire Raptor - getting built

I am sure there is more - will see.  Plus some art as usual.

Armylist for LVO - what should I play?

CSM - Black Legion/Orks

HQ: Sorcerer, Lvl 3, Bike, Sigil of Corruption, Spell Familiar, Veteran of the Long War, Last Memory
HQ: Sorcerer, Lvl 3, Bike, Sigil of Corruption, Spell Familiar, Veteran of the Long War
HQ: Mega Armored Warboss, Cybork, Bosspole
Elites: Lootas X 10
Troops: Cultists X 10
Troops: Cultists X 10
Troops: Shoota Boyz X 30, Big Shoota X 3, Nob, Power Klaw
Troops: Shoota Boyz X 30, Big Shoota X 3, Nob, Power Klaw
FA: Chaos Spawn X 5, MoN
FA: Chaos Spawn X 5, MoN
FA: Heldrake, Baleflamer

1745 on the nose.  This is an odd one - it just seems more fun.  I won't win a lot with it - but still.  It has lots of bodies, Orks, and uses my cool Spawn models.  Plus I can have my Warboss run around with some Lootas that hang off the back end of em.

Woohoo - Marines idea it is super dumb though.

Codex: Iron Hands / Codex Space Marines Iron Hands

HQ: C:IH - Chapter Master, Bike, Chain, Thunder Hammer, Art Armor
HQ: C:IH - Chapter Master, Bike, Storm Shield, Thunder Hammer, Art Armor
HQ: C:SM:IH - Chapter Master, Bike, Shield Eternal, Art Armor, Thunder Hammer
Troops: C:IH - Bikes X 8, Grav Gun X 2, Attack Bike, MM
Troops: C:IH - Bikes X 5, Grav Gun X 2
Troops: C:IH - Bikes X 5, Meltagun X 2
Troops: C:SM:IH - Bikes X 5, Grav Gun X 2
Heavy: C:IH - Thunderfire Cannon
Heavy: C:IH - Thunderfire Cannon
Fortification: Firestorm Redoubt

So this is just a dumb idea - it comes, it hurts, and it has lots of annoyances.  The Firestorm is there to shoot lasers in the sky at stuff.  So crazy looking hahaha.

Daemons/CSM - Black Legion

HQ: LoC, Exalted Gift, Greater Gift, Lvl 3
HQ: LoC, Greater Gift X 2, Lesser Gift, Lvl 3
HQ: DP, Wings, Armor, Lvl 3, Last Memory, Gift of Mutation, Spell Familiar
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Instrument
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Instrument
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Instrument
Troops: Cultists X 10
FA: Heldrake, Baleflamer

Simple, small - should be easy to fly around with and look decent enough.  Still I need to paint a lot of Daemonettes.  Cuz I hate myself haha.

Daemons - Straight Slaanesh

HQ: DP, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift X 2, Lvl 3
HQ: DP, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift X 2, Lvl 3
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent

I have written this one before - it just seems decent - and looks slick.  Still - the weird combo ones just look good too!  Jerks!

Inq/DA
HQ: Coteaz
HQ: Xenos Inq, Servo Skulls X 3, Power Armor, Psyker, Rad Grenades, Psychotroke Grenades
Digital Weapons
HQ: DA Librarian, Bike, Lvl 2, Power Field Generator
HQ: DA Techmarine, Lit Claw, Bike, Power Field Generator
Troops: Warrior Acolytes X 5, LRC, MM, Psybolt
Troops: Warrior Acolytes X 5, LRC, MM, Psybolt
Troops: Crusaders X 3, Deathcult X 3, Priests X 2, Power Axes X 2, LRR, MM, Psybolt
Troops: DA Scouts X 5, Sniper Rifles X 5, Camo Cloaks
FA: DA Black Knights X 5

1747

This is one of those - find all your fun LR's and go to town.  You could drop on of the LRC's for a regular one to give you some Lascannon power.  Still it looks nutty - and could win games.  You move in a brick and roll those dice.


Model and art.

Final Propaganda for LVO!  Woohoo!

Some banner art.

A nice Ork thinking about Ork things.

Ghaz is unhappy with his Car insurance quote!

Dakka all over yer face!

Cannon coming soon.

He has a gift for you - it is death!

BANE KNIGHTS!

Today is my Birfday! I am a Wizzard!

Woohoo - Birfday day!  I am 36 years young and ready for those long walks on the beach, talking about aliens, and trying to decide wtf I should take to the LVO.  Argh!!!  It is the suck.  Lists after paint list.

Me
Plastic Dudesmen - Got idea from Larry so I drew it.  It is kind of dumb but I think it looks goofy as hell.
Daemons depending on what I want to do - need to at least finish one Daemonette squad
Who knows what else.  I need to buy and convert a Firestorm Redoubt.  Blargh!

Greg
LR - Old one - done below!

Jens
10 Pink Horrors - need to base and prime
10 more pink horrors - need to get the rest
1 Fire Raptor - getting built
12 Objective Markers - need to prime and paint

Mike N
3 MegaNobz from Kromlech - Done Below!
Ghazghul - Started
Big Mek with Field - Started
1 Dakkajet - in pieces

Don
1 Skull Cannon of Khorne - in pieces
1 Eldar Revenant - in pieces

Luis
5 Assault terminators - in pieces
10 Sternguard - done
1 Term Libbie - done!
10 Tactical guys - not done need to build

Travis
10 Bane Knights - fixed and primed
1 Big Jack - not primed
1 Big Caster - not primed
Lots of little dudes and this is done too!

I think Nids are ok.  Not amazing but can still win.  Just feels very... CSM actually.  They just don't have a Heldrake.  The Mawloc is kind of close but still not the same.  It feels like the old Nidzilla it is just everyone else has caught up to that list and this one has stayed the same.  If that makes sense.  I still wonder if a bunch of MC's might work.

Tyranid Prime, Deathspitter
Venomthropes X 3
Tyranid Warriors X 9, Deathspitters
Termaguants X 30
Termaguants X 30
Harpy, TWL Hvy Venom Cannon
Carnifex X 3, Devourers X 3
Mawloc
Mawloc

Meh...  it is an idea.  Just... trying to figure out if it works.  Or heck just Heavy VC on some Carnifexes?  Blargh... need to work it through.  I don't think I will be playing them.  I am just waiting on Orks right now.

Current LVO builds - from the least amount of building to the most amount of building.

FMC - Tzeentch + Black Legion
HQ: Fateweaver
HQ: Black Legion DP, MoT, Wings, Armor, Lvl 3, Spell Familiar, Last Memory
Troops: Pink Horrors X 10
Troops: Pink Horrors X 10
Troops: Cultist X 10
FA: Heldrake, Baleflamer
Heavy: DP, MoT, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift, Exalted Gift, Lvl 3
Heavy: DP, MoT, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift, Exalted Gift, Lvl 3

I don't need to paint anything more for this one.  It is simple, will look good and will probably still play fine.  It just feels... like I have been there and done that.  And lots of people play the Tzeentch one too.  Still it would be easy to play and I can show off some crazy conversions.

FMC - Slaanesh
HQ: Keeper of Secrets, Lvl 3, Exalted Gift, Greater Gift
HQ: Keeper of Secrets, Lvl 3, Exalted Gift, Greater Gift
Troops: Daemonettes X 12
Troops: Daemonettes X 12
Heavy: DP, MoS, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift X 2, Lvl 3
Heavy: DP, MoS, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift X 2, Lvl 3
Heavy: DP, MoS, Wings, Armor, Greater Gift X 2, Lvl 3

I would have to make another Keeper and figure out one of the DP's to use.  Plus those Daemonettes too. This is straightforward and simple.  Blargh... it has that simplicity I like plus if I get puppet master I can do some dumb things too haha.  And it doesn't look like other people's lists.

I can do Horde Daemons too.

HQ: LOC, Greater Gift X 2, Lesser Gift, Lvl 3
HQ: LOC, Greater Gift X 2, Lesser Gift, Lvl 3
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Allures, Greater Gift, Icon
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Allures, Greater Gift, Icon
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Icon
Troops: Plague Bearers X 10
Troops: Plague Bearers X 10
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent

This one I need to patin a lot of Daemonettes and 2 Grinders.  Still it would look crazy on the table top eh?  The Greater Gift can mean some anti tank options with the beam or heck just get the whip or the cool sword.

I even have terrible Inq ideas too.

HQ: Coteaz
HQ: Xenos, Rad, Psychotroke, Psyker, Power Armor
Elites: Acolytes X 5, Storm Bolters X 5, LRC, Psybolt, MM
Elites: Acolytes X 5, Storm Bolters X 5, LRC, Psybolt, MM
Elites: 3 Crusaders w/Pwr Axe, 3 Deathcult, 2 Priests, LRR, Psybolt, MM

1248 pts right there.
Firestorm Redoubt is 200 - then maybe Dark Angels to get a Powerfield Libbie on a bike?  Some scouts and call it a day?  Need to make a bike command squad then?

DA Libbie, Bike, Powerfield
Tech Marine, Bike, Powerfield
Scouts X 5, Snipers, Camo Cloaks
Scouts X 5, Snipers, Camo Cloaks

Comes out to 1803 or something like that.  Nutty eh?  Lvl 2 Libbie maybe?  Hahaha the list would look so nutty too hahaha.

Ok enough of that - models and I go to bed.

Models

This gives me 10 doggies now

Old skool LR - the lighting got goofed.  Super old and cool - had to fix up stuff too.

Sternguard too!

Zap!!! Wit my Mind!

Hey - more Sternguard.

Whaa... Green Orks?  Ghaz and a Big Mek Coming.

Finally painted one.  I have one in a box I need to build soon too.

Some art for a client!

Sunday Post - Gonna Try to Keep a Schedule

With sometime in the week a rules idea.  Like this week - I want to brainstorm some Inquisition ideas and if they would work with Kill Team etc.  It might work.  Just some thoughts.  But yeah - played in a 500 pt tournament today.  I did ok - just playing Orks.  Warboss in Mega Armor, Lootas, some boyz and some Grots.  It went ok but man Tau shoot a lot.  Plus I failed a lot of 2+ saves... Makes me think I should have just taken Mega Nobz but meh.  I couldn't find them hahaha.

Beyond that I am still thinking of my Las Vegas list.  I think I came up with it - just need to play test it to see if it feels right.  It has the right amount of nonsense in there I think - plus it doesn't look like other people's lists.  Good times indeed.  Before that - let's do a Paint list.

Me!
Logo for a Club - need to draw it - will be done before the weekend
Plastic Dudesmen - Epic 3 Parter is finished - now something different - maybe Nid one a fan sent in.
Art for another Logo thing - need to plan it out
Start my new idea for a comic - if it gets steam I will post it.
10 Flesh Hounds of Khorne - Need to build em
Finish up one unit of Daemonettes a some point

Greg
Old Skool LR - Need to fix up a bit, then paint it in an Inquisition style - should be fun.

Don
1 Khorne Cannon - Primed and ready to paint - will start tonight
1 Unbuilt Cannon
1 Eldar Revenant

Jens
10 Pink Horrors
10 Objective thingies - are neat
Raptor - Building building it when he gets back from Vacation
Portalglyph - Need to build one

Luis
Sternguard X 10 - Specific Load out - should be fun - Flesh Tearer color
1 Drop Pod for said Stern Guard

Travis
Nightmare
Lich Lord guy
And lots of little dudes - Bane Knights etc
Then this lot is done!

Mike N
Dakka Jet
3 Mega Nobz from Kromlech
1 Ghazghul

I think this covers what I have commission wise left - Luis has tons more stuff so it is all good in da hood.  I wanted to write out the whole thing so I can see it better.  Plus it will give a list of when to finish things etc.

My birthday is this coming Monday.  I will be 36 years old!  Woohoo - will have a simple dinner with friends then going to a local arcade that has pinballs, byob, and games.  Fun times indeed and one of the cool things about Austin.  Plus no snow!

I played a game last Thursday with Be'Lakor.  That guy is good and should be in most Daemon lists if you haven't tried him yet.  I doubt most events will let us use them but still - he kicks ass and is an army multiplier.  The amount of random tricks you can pull is pretty sick with that guy.

Current LVO list

HQ: LoC, Lvl 3, Greater Gift X 2, Lesser Gift
HQ: Herald of Khorne, Juggernaut, Greater Gift, Lesser Gift, Locus of Wrath
HQ: Herald of Tzeentch, Exalted Gift, Lvl 3, Locus of Conjuration
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Icon of Chaos
Troops: Daemonettes X 20, Icon of Chaos
Troops: Pink Horrors X 20
FA: Flesh Hounds of Khorne X 15
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent

It is fast - has a lot of threats, and should hopefully get there.  I can teleport the Grinders in if I need to make holes later on.  The Flamer is a big help and I see it being extremely useful in the Tau Match up as you try to get there.  It also helps keep your Grinders alive a bit longer.  If I was taking something to Adepticon I might try to add in one more Herald of Tzeentch or Juggernaut of Khorne guy.  It lets me do some funky charges as I try to get things to pop their overwatch.  It is some ideas.

I will start testing it this week as I get all the pieces to finish it.  My Grinders are going to look crazy most likely.

Alright - beyond this let's do some mini stuff and call it a night.

Baby Thirster want his Baby Ruth!

Random Guy Luis had sent to Me.

Kroot!

You got an Eyelash on your face - let me get it.

Doing a little dance!

More Propaganda for LVO!

I Know This Isn't Sunday - but yeah - Post!!

Woohoo - I survived 2013!  All in all it keeps becoming better years as the life is good, the wife is great, and models keep coming out that I want to paint!  Yay!

I was going to try to do a perspective of what I have done last year - but it is too many models to go through.  Plus I didn't really do a good database of them.  Just know I painted a ton of stuff.  A ton of art too.  Woohoo!  It has been a crazy year.

This year let's see - I got the Las Vegas Open, Adepticon, ATC, Alamo, and probably some other events.  I plan on playing more local events too as I need the practice.  Heck - I just need to go back to my roots with some horde style armies and move away from the Death Star.  The only way to get better is to give yourself more options to shine and I think that is my plan this year.  Hopefully I can make top 16 again at Adepticon and maybe repeat at being the best bad guy again.

New job is going well too - so that is good.  I played monopoly over New Years - I rolled so many 12' I think it is telling me I should lay off those psychic spells eh?

Let's see - paint list eh?

Me
10 Flesh Hounds - in a box
Dark Eldar as Daemonettes - starting building more - slow process
Plastic Dudesmen - Drawn - needing to get reviewed and edited
I am sure other stuff too.

Travis
2 Warjacks - need to prime em
Bane Knights - want to do them by next week.

Luis P
Death Company X 9 - Done
Chaplain - Done
Corbullo - Done
4 Heavy Weapon Dudes - Done
5 Termies - need to find the parts to finish them

Nick R
30 Kroot - 10 Done, another 10 more tonight hopefully and then 10 more this weekend to finish the 30.

D&D figures X 4 - Done!

Jens
Objective Marker thingies X 12 - need to build
10 Horrors - Need to base and parime
10 More - Need to get them
Fire Raptor - Getting Build

Don S
2 Khorne Cannons - One to build other is built
Eldar Revenant - In bags...
Old Baby Thirster - Need to get on a base and paint

Greg H
Old Skool LR need to fix up and paint as Inquisition

I think that covers most things - the list will grow as usual.  It just never ends eh?  I got a bday coming Jan 13th - 36 years old.  Will see what kind of nonsense I decide to do.  I like to go to those Japanese Steak Houses cuz I love shrimp thrown at my face.

Current Lists to try out for LVO - I don't do FW cuz I don't own a lot and I find that most players getting school by a FW thing get mad.  So Daemons it is!

Initial Thought

HQ: Lord of Change, Lvl 3, Greater Gift X 2, Lesser Gift - Warlord
HQ: Lord of Change, Lvl 3, Exalted Gift, Greater Gift
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Plague Bearers X 10
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent

I am coming at you hard and fast.  If I dump the LoC - go with a dog set up maybe?  Meh - it is an idea - dog idea version 1.

HQ: Herald of Khorne, Juggernaut, Greater Gift, Lesser Gift, Locus of Wrath
HQ: Herald of Khorne, Juggernaut, Greater Gift, Lesser Gift
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Daemonettes X 20
Troops: Plague Bearers X 10
FA: Flesh Hounds X 20
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent
Heavy: Soul Grinder, MoS, Baleful Torrent

This one seems - well grinding to say the least.  It is coming hard and fast and will get there with big fat units.  It is a thought for sure.

Thought this other one could be ok - CSM/ORKs - this is if I could play Be'Lakor

HQ: Be'Lakor
HQ: DP, MoT, Wings, Armor, Lvl 3, Black Mace, Gift of Mutation, Spell Familiar
HQ: Warboss, Bike, Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Cybork, Bosspole
Troops: Cultists X 10
Troops: Cultists X 10
Troops: Shoota Boyz X 30, Rokkits X 3, Nob
Troops: Shoota Boyz X 30, Rokkits X 3
FA: Heldrake, Baleflamer
FA: Heldrake, Baleflamer

This one is pretty basic - if I can't take Be'Lakor I could do another DP with the Torrent flamer etc.  Meh - ideas ideas and more ideas.  I hope Orks don't suck.

Ok - models etc.